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[OoBYCoO]

So I'm about to do a bulk grow of Z strain.  I was just wondering, in your opinion do you think I should do a mono-tub or mono-shotgun tub?  Which one do you think would produce a better yield?  Which one would require more attention? etc etc etc

[Burbles]

What exactly is the difference?

[OoBYCoO]

One uses polyfill one doesn't....
Mono-tub
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Mono-shotgun tub
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[morgan832]

One uses polyfill one doesn't....
Mono-tub
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Mono-shotgun tub
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WOW i wish i could get my tote to get a flush like that

[eLShaMukO]

you could if you know how to isolate  or clone on agar

i like mono tub , its simple and it works just fine.

why make more holes if you can just fan more .

[morgan832]

you could if you know how to isolate  or clone on agar

i like mono tub , its simple and it works just fine.

why make more holes if you can just fan more .

is it ok to order agar dish per made from ebaby? i have some money on my paypal soon. the money was part for a hps setup but i need to figure out these damn mushies. i can grow then just not alot each flush.

[OoBYCoO]

I get mine here...  http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/product_...asp?sku=1420152

[eLShaMukO]

i guess its fine to order
but its more expensive

i make my own , i dont even use a  petri dish anymore
i use  half pint plastic jars made of PP5
so i can reuse, a little more bulky but cheap.

i paid 12 bucks for 4 oz of agar media
mixed with some oat meal and water
sterilized , it works great.

mycopath sells 500 ml of ready to use malt extract agar for 11 bucks
http://www.mycopath.com/sterile-malt-extra...500ml-p-29.html

just get some plastic containers like
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Ziploc brand twist and lock
made of pp5 can resist a PC

petri dishes are the best choice
but this is good for us guys that have less options.

[greysRDbest]

you can use wide mouth 1/2 pints or those specialty 1/4 pint widemouth jars for agar if you have to.


personally i prefer a monotub setup but i use 4 inch filter patches...about a dozen for a tub the size of the one in the photo.


if you dont filter your holes....eventually youre either going to run into trichoderma, botrytis, or penecillium.....and its tougher to maintain an RH without filters as well.


its hard to argue with success though....ive seen plenty of very successful grows done in unfiltered shotgun tubs.

[morgan832]

I get mine here...  http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/product_...asp?sku=1420152

ive been to this site before. do they take paypal? i plan on making my own dish but just not yet. do you have to still fan a mono tub? can you use tyvek instead of polyfill?

[OoBYCoO]

Come on people!!!  80 views and only 4 votes?!?!?!?!?!  What kind of ratio is that?!?!?!?!
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[morgan832]

i cant say one or the other because i haven't tried them yet. do you have to fan both style totes?

[OoBYCoO]

That's ok given your experience.  I, also, haven't done either or.  That's why I'm doing this poll to see which one people like more and for their advice on both.

[morgan832]

kool thats why im here but the 50/50 isnt helping much. can some one tell us why one is better then the other?

[eLShaMukO]

the way i see it

mono tub has less FAE so you have to fan more and mist less but it is protected by polyfill.

mono hybrid gets more air in there , less fanning ,more misting
and less protection.

Ive seen both ways with good results ,  i have seen more grows with mono tubs than hybrids
so you have to see what tek works best  for you.

which is best ?

depends on what  to do do for maintenance of the tubs
also genetics play  a role in yields
substrate moist etc
you may have the best tub in the world
but all of the above cant be ignored

mono tubs are a proven method to me
why fix something that ain't broken  

[OoBYCoO]

Thanks for the advice bro.  ugghhh  This tie is killing me!!  I might just have to go w/ you on that.  Whatever I end up deciding I'm gonna do a tek for it here since we don't have one yet.

[morgan832]

well i have 2 large totes, so i guess i'll order some agar dishes. get some clean myc of them both (i have developed some cobweb). both as in creepers and Hawaiian. transfer to grains then to bulk. i'll post the whole thing and call it monotube vs. hybrid. i can't wait. mostly to try out the Hawaiian and to try both ways.

[eLShaMukO]

i haven't got the Hawaiian spores yet but it looks like it has some
genetics to make some giant cubes in there

[morgan832]

i haven't got the Hawaiian spores yet but it looks like it has some
genetics to make some giant cubes in there

i cant wait to find out

[eLShaMukO]

Thanks for the advice bro.  ugghhh  This tie is killing me!!  I might just have to go w/ you on that.  Whatever I end up deciding I'm gonna do a tek for it here since we don't have one yet.

Do a tek dude  

ill try to add some info to our mushroom info knowledgebase an soon as i can
it needs some work