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[OoBYCoO]

GROWING PAPAVER SOMNIFERUM POPPIES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR2fLGR4bBI...feature=related

Here's another one...
Indoor Poppy Gardening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4Z2r33eEk...feature=related

[OoBYCoO]

OK this is what I just did this evening... Step by step and will update as they come along...

• What you need:
• Potting soil
• Perlite
• Vermiculite
• Pete pots/pellets
• Clear plastic tray
• Water collecting dish
• And of course... POPPY SEEDS!!!

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Now what I did was use the plastic tray to mix up 2 parts potting soil w/ 1 part vermiculite and 1 part perlite...
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Once I was done mixing, I filled up my pete pots (lightly, not compact) like so...
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Then I put a pinch of poppy seeds in each pot covering w/ a VERY thin layer of vermiculite...
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You can't tell in the pic, but what I did next is give them a very generous misting w/ a water bottle...
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Then I poured a little water in the collecting tray, covered w/ the clear plastic tray for mini green house effect (after I cleaned it off from doing the soil mixture), and placed them in my growing area...
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[Burbles]

I got this from some place... not to sure of its usefulness, etc

Growing the Opium Poppy (Papaver Somniferum)

Strains of Papaver Somniferous
   There are many different strains of  papaver somniferum. They vary in growth rate, flower color, pod size, alkaloid content, and about every other aspect you can imagine. Papaver somniferum seeds are commonly used as a spice.  McCormick’s Poppy Seeds, sold as a spice, are an easy and cheap source of viable papaver somniferum seeds. However controversy exists if McCormick’s Seeds are a good variety to use if you are growing for the alkaloids they produce.
   When choosing a strain of papaver somniferum, it is recommended to research what strain is most ideal for all aspects in where they are to grow. If one is able, get several strains and see what ones grow best in the garden.

Soil
   Before one goes about germinating the seeds, they will want to put them in a soil in which they can not only survive, but flourish.  Papaver somniferum thrives in loose sandy, well draining soil. They can survive in different soil, but they may not grow as well. Avoid compact soil. Compact soil often has high levels of clay and do not drain well, and also may make it difficult for the plant to get a large root system. A large root system is important to grow large  papaver somniferum  plants, since it will allow the plant to get high amounts of water and nutrients.  The pH of the soil can vary, but it is believed that near neutral is ideal.

When to Plant.
   Papaver somniferum grows best at cool temperatures. It is best to plant the seeds in the fall, winter, or early spring.  

Germination.
   Papaver somniferum seeds germinate very easily. Tossing them on the soil, and gently covering them with a small amount of soil or sand works well. If they are kept moist, the bulk of the seeds should germinate with in several days. It is important that they are not in a soil, or watered so much that it encourages damp off. If one attempts to start growing papaver somniferum in the heat of mid summer, they will find it is relatively difficult to get  past a small sprout with only a few true leafs.

Maintaining.
   Once the plants are well established in their garden, they must be maintained. Fertilizing, Watering, and ensuring they get adequate sunlight is important. The plants should be maintained until harvest.

Harvest.
   There are many ways of getting a harvest from papaver somniferum. One can make a small incision into the pod two or three weeks after the last petal has fallen from the pod. Cutting the pod will allow for latex to flow out onto the surface, and will dry with sufficient time. Scraping away the dried latex, or opium will allow you to make more small cuts on the pod, allowing for more opium to be harvested.
   Once you are done collecting the opium, the pods can be taken , dried, and brewed into a tea. extracted. Often the tea is thought to be very distasteful, so to avoid the horrible taste an extraction can be preformed to get more alkaloids.

Extraction and Purification.
   Purifying the alkaloids from the opium, or the pods from papaver somniferum is an easy task if you understand what you are doing, and have the required equipment. Luckily the concepts are not too hard, nor the equipment rare.
   Below is the United States Patent 6,054,584 which describes how to extract morphine and other alkaloids from opium.  

Adjusting pH levels
   The pH level of any soil can be adjusted by adding acids or bases. Acids such as aluminum sulfate will decrease pH levels. Bases such as lime or ash will increase pH levels.  Remember, near neutral is favored.

[OoBYCoO]

More information is ALWAYS useful!!  And thank you for contributing that.

[eLShaMukO]

papaver is cool

the army here will bust your ass if you have a patch

nice guide dude.

[OoBYCoO]

Hydroponic Heroin
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/2050017...ing?tab=summary

Go there for the torrent.  I downloaded it and am seeding it.  I opened it and it's a great copy!!

[Burbles]

Opium poppies, despite being deemed bad, are sold as ornamentals. I saw a few in someones yard and they were never harvested - so apparently they grew them and had no idea.

[eLShaMukO]

so apparently they grew them and had no idea.

this happens a lot .

[Cryogenicz]

They are technically not illegal.

Its however, illegal to harvest the opium from them.

-Graham

[OoBYCoO]

Sounds like a certain hobby I know...

[Burbles]

No - they are completely illegal to grow. The Opium poppy is more illegal to grow than marijuana, and just as illegal to grow as magic mushrooms... at least.

[Cryogenicz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_poppy

Check it out dude.. its not illegal to grow poppies in the US.

-Graham

[eLShaMukO]

its not illegal to grow poppies in the US

correct

[OoBYCoO]

[OoBYCoO]

UPDATE   
OK so It's only been 4 days and this is what I'm working w/...
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Everyday I've been misting at least once.  And now that the seeds have sprouted I am removing the clear plastic tray from the top.  Also, I fill the collecting tray w/ fertilized water once a day.  I use 1 teaspoon of the stuff in the pic below and mix it w/ 1 gallon of water.
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[Burbles]

Seedlings don't need much fertilizer and generally you only give that to established plants. That also sounds like a lot of fertilizer - becareful, if it becomes hypertonic to the plant it will kill it... or burn it or something.

[Burbles]

They could still get you - with intent or something. But I guess they are legal. All be damned.

[OoBYCoO]

[OoBYCoO]

Seedlings don't need much fertilizer and generally you only give that to established plants. That also sounds like a lot of fertilizer - becareful, if it becomes hypertonic to the plant it will kill it... or burn it or something.

I actually called up Humagrow and asked them directly and that's what he suggested I use.

[OoBYCoO]

UPDATE   
You'll notice that they have started to develop there "true" leaves.  Ok here they are...
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I'm going to have to thin them out soon.
Also, they might start develop mold due to the moisture.  I combat this w/ what you see in the pic.  I noticed it most on the outside of the pots so I just sprayed each one of them down w/ this stuff and let the excess collect in the tray to be reabsorbed later.
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